Going to Conference Committee on Immigration Would Be A Disaster
“The Senate immigration bill has become toxic for many on the center-right, and some on the pro-worker left. Its purported ‘comprehensiveness’ has been exposed as a morass of giveaways, backroom deals, and loopholes. Its promises of enforcement could easily be broken (that is, assuming they were designed to be kept), and, as even the Congressional Budget Office has conceded, its enforcement strategies, even if carried out, could still allow millions more illegal immigrants over the course of the next decade,” says Fred Bauer in National Review.
“Observing this grassroots anger about the Senate’s approach to immigration, House Republicans have countered with a “piecemeal” approach to the issue, in which the House would pass a series of small-ball immigration bills instead of agreeing on a sweeping grand bargain. If the piecemeal immigration measures go to conference with the Senate bill, though, the conferees could end up sabotaging this strategy.”
Illegal Aliens Dare Obama to Deport
“Young immigrants in the country illegally have escalated their protests against deportations this week, creating awkward dilemmas for Obama administration officials who are pressing the House of Representatives to pass broad immigration legislation this fall,” the New York Times writes.
“With leaders in the House saying they could take up several immigration bills, the administration is walking a fine line. They want to avoid arrests or deportations of advocates that could create a confrontation between the White House and groups mobilizing support for overhaul legislation that Mr. Obama supports. But officials are also trying to persuade skeptical Republicans that the administration is vigorously enforcing immigration law.”
The Washington Times has a story about the bus protest as well. “Illegal immigrants chained themselves to a gate and blocked a bus in Phoenix on Wednesday in an effort to stop the Obama administration from deporting other illegal immigrants, according to activists who said the move marks an escalation in civil disobedience.”
Debating Obama’s Power to Legalize
“Say Congress fails to pass an immigration-reform bill. Could President Obama use his executive powers to effectively legalize the 11 million illegal immigrants who are already in the United States?” asks Washington Post blogger Brad Plummer.
“Sen. Marco Rubio thinks so. He warned House Republicans that if they don’t pass a bill, Obama will act: “I believe that this president will be tempted, if nothing happens in Congress,” Rubio said, ‘to issue an executive order as he did for the Dream Act kids a year ago, where he basically legalizes 11 million people by the sign of a pen.'”
Well, FAIR needs to mention that Rudolph Murdoch supports the gang of 8, so Fox news being tough on the immigration issues is not completely true. Obama is not any worst than Paul Ryan and the gang 8 on the Republican side.
Last going to conferences on IR is the right way to do this…..face the issue up the front…………..like a REAL AMERICAN
It’s all about votes…illegals will most certainly vote for the party that made them permanent welfare recipients…Obama will make sure this passes in any way he can..if that means executive order, it will be done.
I do believe the president did take a oath to up hold the constitution and defend it. so he hasn’t impeach him
If congress would grow a spine he wouldn’t use executive privilege like he does. Many of them violate the oath he took and he should be impeached.
If congress spent half as much time taking care of the citizens of the USA as they do all the illegals
we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in.
This administration is a joke, they are more interested on helping foreigners and those in the country illegally, that doing the job they were elected to do and enforce our laws, weather they like them or not. What we need is enforcement of the laws we have, e-verify mandatory nation wide, the stop to birth right citizenship and all the abuses it carries and an end to all the tax payers paid incentives, that bring the illegals here. If we do all that, the illegals will leave the country on their own, because they will have no choice. This has been proven by states that pass tough laws against illegal immigration, the illegals leave to more illegal friendly states and if we do it nation wide, they will leave the USA.
EXACTLY CORRECT!!! THEY HAVE INVADED THE U.S. WITHOUT A SHOT BEING FIRED, AND GET ALL THE BENEFITS OF WE HARD WORKING CITIZENS….THIS IS JUST WRONG, ANY WAY YOU CUT IT! WRONG! THERE WAS ZERO WRONG WITH OUR IMMIGRATION POLICY FOR 150 YRS….NOW BECAUSE OF ALL THIS PC CRAP THEY THING WE ARE GOING TO FALL FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM…REFORM NOTHING…IT AIN’T BROKE!!!!!
When President Obama took his oath of office, he did NOT say he was going to protect or take care of people from foreign countries, nor did he say he would give any kind of protection to those who broke our laws. Quite often I hear him say we are a “Country of Laws”, so I want to know how he picks and chooses which laws he upholds and which ones he chooses to allow people to break?
This is AMERICA, we have a Constitution which gives us the guidelines to follow. When President Eisenhower deported all the “********”, and that IS what he called them, he did it to protect and serve the AMERICAN CITIZENS and returning VETERANS, making jobs more easily obtainable. When Harry Truman deported illegal aliens he did it for the same reason, making more jobs available for VETERANS.
I cannot understand a President, the Senate and the House for wavering about the millions and millions of illegal aliens who are sucking up welfare that was paid by TAXPAYING WORKING AMERICANS. It is Wrong on every level. No AMNESTY for lawbreakers and parasites. SEND THEM BACK TO THEIR OWN HOME COUNTRY!
exactly, I watched citrus harvestors in Central Fl. growing up and my father was one, they always did the books and kept up with what was right to a certain degree. You lose track with false credentials and green cards like ou`re pres..******** is exactly what they were called and greedy harvesters would work them, kids in the groves while ou`res were in school. I always asked is`nt this illegal?? Now they have had families and are all over Fl. and people complain about how are all these Mexicans getting in here? Well its many local people here that had to get the cheap labor and not pay the taxes. So Rodriquez is an American now. adios.
Very well said and I second you on all you said.
IF THEY WANT TO BE IN AMERICA THEN DO IT THE LEGAL WAY.IF YOU COME INTO A COUNTRY ILLEGALLY YOU DO NOT DESERVE ANY OF THE BENEFITS OR JOBS OR MEDICAL HELP FROM THAT COUNTRY. YOU DO NOT EVEN DESERVE THE FOOD YOU EAT.BECAUSE YOU DO THINGS ILLEGALLY THEN ALL YOU DESERVE IS TO BE DEPORTED RIGHT BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM. IF YOU DO IT THE LEGAL WAY THEN YES WELCOME TO EVERYTHING.BUT IF YOU DON’T THEN YOU ARE A THIEF BECAUSE YOU ARE STEALING EVERYTHING FROM THE AMERICANS THAT DO DESERVE TO BE HERE.IF YOU ARE CAUGHT COMEING ACROSS MORE THAN ONCE THEN YOU SHOULD DO JAIL TIME IN YOUR COUNTRY NOT THIS ONE.
AMEN Patricia. Our president should always keep the best interests of our current citizens in mind over the welfare of other countries citizens. It is so sickening that the proponents of amnesty support their position by accusing us of racism.
Obama duped Americans to get elected. He’s half white and half black don’t like either.
He is in love with illegal Mexicans and Muslims. He like lawlessness and corruption, born and raised in another country, he is a fraud an impostor has no feelings for America, a lost empty soul.
Unfortunately, it isn’t just POTUS…In 1996, as part of the Welfare Reform Act of 1995, Title 8 U.S.C. Sec. 1621 came into being. It has NEVER been enforced ANYWHERE, BY ANYONE. Look it up, you will be SHOCKED! Think how many millions of dollars our cities, counties, and states would save, if only this law were enforced!
You cannot collect Welfare unless you are legal………………38% whites 37% blacks and 17% Hispanics……..so out of this demographics NO WAY all are illegals actually NONE……and the children born are extremely a low percentage BESIDES the 2nd population of illegals in numbers are the Chinese,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
You should behave like a real American instead of singing the same song: Enforcement…it starts WITH THE PEOPLE!!
So well said. thank you for your post I feel the same way, if they want to be here do things legally. If not ship them back where they came from. Why should we support any of them?
personally i do understand their plight,but just because and in many cases nations like Mexico,Honduras & etc fail and refuse to enact reforms that will create gainful employment opportunities because of the political & commercial corruption thus creating the the situation to where even the worst possible jobs here those here illegally are glad to take..why ?? even 30.00 a day for many is better than 30 month or less where there are from ..can’t blame them but with over 20 million people plus of our our own unemployed & underemployed..the millions who after running out of 99 weeks of unemployment ran to Social Security Disability by the millions thus creating a false vacuum for the total US labor force …too bad those who Illegally Immigrate here didn’t have the courage or support to organize and fight for their rights & liberties in their nations but instead have the young people who also have no legal business being/remaining here..to try and make American look and feel guilty by putting legal us citizens in a difficult position and thus playing the poor disenfranchised race & pity the poor dreamers card by changing the meaning of words to control a discussion & debate.. according to the Saul Alinsky’s rules for radicals game plan
If President Obama signs an executive order legalizing 11 million people, I’m very afraid that there will be a slow rise to a revolution in this country. There are already too few jobs in this country for our legal citizens, and adding 11 million people to the mix will only make this worse. In addition, those working Americans will be paying for the welfare, foodstamps, medical care, housing for these 11 million people. It’s already difficult enough to make ends meet for our own families, please do not add to the burden by forcing us to take care of people that will not take the proper channels to enter this country legally. If Obama is intimidated by the young illegals that are protesting this action, he should not be in office…..
Agree. We need a president that is not afraid of the open border advocates and the illegals, time to stand up for America and the Americans for a change, Mr President.
Agreed. We already have limited resources as is. We need to stop letting people think that the American Dream is available to everyone. The American Dream is only available as long as we protect it.
I really doubt it we will have a revolution….you dreaming Catherine……and if we do…we will go back 300 years,,,,,Obama said already once that he would not use the executive order but as many phrases……..: if the gov is corrupt the right to arms is to protect ourselves from the gov….BUT what if the other way around if The People is the problem?……WELL then the Feds would be the country’s gun….I think we are in good shape…..
If I was the President I would have States activate there National Guard and deport every illegal they could find. If they enforce the laws we have know they would not to make new laws. This Bull crap of letting illegals come into our country and try to force us to do what they wont just would not fly with me.
As far as Washington goes, we have a congress that couldn’t wipe there own butts because there so lazy. Along with the fact that Congress just don’t give a damn. Our Senate is the same way. The way I see it is there is only two or three Senators that are worth having in office.
If this bunch of idiots pass this amnesty bill it will destroy the USA completely. Obama knows it but to be a legal him self the bill has to pass.
Load the illegal blockers on the Bus and send them out of the US with the rest of the Illegals.
NO AMNESTY NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM. IT’S NOT FAIR TO ALL THAT ARE WAITING IN LINE. IT’S NO FAIR TO THE AMERICA PEOPLE. THE ONES THAT HAVE TO FOOT THE BILL. THIS IS A SCAM FOR DEM. FOR VOTES STOP THIS BULLSH– NOW AND TAKE AMERICA BACK BEFORE IT’S TO LATE. IF YOU WOULD GO AFTER THE EMPLOYERS LIKE THE LAW SAYS. THEY WOULD GO BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM. THIS IS WHAT’S WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM.
Richard you and I have no direct power if CI will happen but that is no amnesty for sure………….but it has been our way………….this land has always nurture people from all over whatever you call it legal/illegal…and stayed here…to improve the place…..
Those illegals blocking the bus were all conveniently chained together so they should have been escorted on to the bus for deportation as well! Illegals have no right to protest anything as they don’t have the freedom of speech granted to legal citizens. They are like mosquitoes that think they have a right to your blood just because they exist. Swat them and throw them out! They need to go home and complain to their own government!
I agree with Earl. I’m also tired of giving them free handouts. Thats why we’re going bankrupt. We can’t even take care of our own properly.
Linda you give nobody free handouts………….actually we do that with Welfare which is being abused NOT BY ILLEGALS but our own………………….
If I wanted to live in Mexico, I would move there.
If President Obama chose to veto and legalize all the illegals that already are in the country. he will be cutting our throats. Unemployment will be worse. Also the fact that young illegals are attempting to block buses that are sending people back to Mexico is a blatant disregard of our existing laws. If they continue to do that, then they definitely need to go back as well., Try coming the right way!!
Diana unemployment would never get worse…..actually those jobs will be finally counted in the legal system and the percentages would decrease accordingly as 11 M or by 3.3% better of those having jobs……………………….use your head …
The funny thing about the president signing an executive order for a general amnesty is that he said he could not legally issue an executive order for the more limited Dream Act. He said it, said it again, and then said it more times, and then he did EXACTLY what he claimed he did not have the power to do.
How gullible do you have to be to think he is going to do ANY differently, especially were he to sign the Senate bill if passed? He DOESN”T CARE about the law. And WHY would Congress agree to give him and future presidents virtually unlimited power to set any future immigration policy?
Remember that document called the Constitution? How the Congress makes laws, not the President? Did that change? Did I miss the news story about that?
there is a fine line in this case Leland……if the House has enough votes or the President wants to push COngress to act….he can do that….actually i would like to see him doing that…..and finish this ordeal once and for all……………..
If indeed the majority will vote no WHY Boehner does not put the Bill on the floor and do deal!!….
Actuallly Rubio is right,,,,,the president can do the same he did with Romney and end the careers of the Republicans….by issuing the order and show the American People how the Reuplicans manipulate COngress at THe People’s money expenses……….I never thought of this SO…..now I actually believe he can do this.
You are correct COngress makes the Laws and the presidents can execute these orders as per the Constitution BUT Obama can do this to force Congress to act.
HoW?…..well once he does it Congress has to get 2/3 to veto it and if they win Obama can veto it as well BUT most interestingly…….COngress gets to vote and if so IT mMIHT PASS……
Your e mail is barely comprehensible. I am assuming you are an immigrant, perhaps an illegal alien and you want amnesty to happen?
Regardless, Boehner does have the right to not put the bill on the floor for a vote. Win the House of Representatives back if you want something different. That is not likely but give it a try in 2014.
Amnesty is a disaster for this country. I still don’t think Boehner is stupid enough to allow it through in it’s current form.
Leland as per my previous feedback to you ….I think this is a good thing……now presidents can go ahead and push Congress with Executive orders to act, and this can be used not only for Immigration but all other issues we have had all these years they r doing nothing so far………………..
Obama might actually have found the congress’ Achilles tendon to make things happen for the US faster instead of in 30 years and have these guys in Congress to make a career out of nothing,,,,,,really…….they get a great pension and medical insurance at retirement NONE else does…..but so far they have not EARNED it!!!!………